Here's a letter I received this week from someone who decided to analyze the similarities between the him and I. Read on...
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Hi BLM,
First, I have to say thank you for your blog. I always knew there were other bi married men like me out there, but you could be my twin! I have read every one of your posts as well as all of your readers’ comments. The more I read, the more I saw myself in your posts. From what I can gather: your healthy lifestyle, family life, taste, values, sexual desires and depression issues are very similar to mine.
Call me “Bi Married Too” (BMT). I am in my late 40s, (look much younger) 6’2, 180, in shape, muscular, workout 5x week. I have been married 20 years and have two teenage sons. My wife is a wonderful person (more on my wife later). I spend a lot of time with my family and I am a good provider. I have a white collar profession, I am Jewish and I live in the suburbs of a city not far from NYC.
I have a Ross. Let’s say his name is Mark. Mark is different than Ross in that he is a divorced, out, gay dad of two. He is around my age, muscular, in shape and very successful in his profession. He lives close to me. I met Mark on Man Hunt about 3 years ago. He was ending a long term relationship with his boyfriend and I think I caught him on the rebound. At our first meeting, we instantly clicked. Our chemistry was perfect. We started talking on the phone and texting every day. We had sex at least once a week. We are both versatile, though anal sex did not happen every time. I was concerned we were falling in love. I made it clear to him that I was not going to leave my wife and I did not want to disturb my kid’s upbringing. He was cool with that. We became best friends with benefits. Since I could not offer him the LTR he desired, I could not tell him not to date. He still went on dates and told me all the details. Since he more than filled my desire for men, I was not interested in anyone else.
I started to go on fake business trips. This allowed me to stay over his house for a few days at a time. My wife met Mark. This allowed us to go on some legitimate
mancations. We had a great time traveling together. (NYC, Ft. Lauderdale, Las Vegas to name a few)
A few months ago, Mark told me his x-boy friend was back in the picture. He wanted to try to fix things with him and continue to be my best friend. He was not sure how we were going to handle the sex part.
Over time, I started noticing a decrease in our communication and sexual encounters. It drove me crazy. I told my self I can deal with the drop off in sex, but I did not want to lose him as a friend and as someone I can talk to about day to day BS. He is the only person who knows the REAL me, all about me. He knows more about me that my wife. Like you and Ross, I felt Mark was not treating me right. It would take days for him to return my calls. I told him about it and he said he is just busy. My gut is telling me I am losing him as the friend I would like him to be. I am sad about that.
I mentioned we were almost twins. Below are some posts from your blog and how they relate to me. Reading about another man like me, working through the same issues, gave me joy, comfort and validation as a family oriented bi married man. Thank You!
Below, your posts are in italics, my comments are in bold.
BLM: I rationalize my encounters with men while being married as not cheating. RATIONALIZE meaning..yea, of course i know its cheating. But, like the Mark McGuire and Barry Bonds home runs records, its cheating with an asteric. I have never ever cheated on my wife with another woman. I wouldn't even think of it. I have however, had many, many encounters with other men. They offer me something my wife, obviously cannot. Do I get a gold star for this? I doubt so.
However, I cannot possibly live my life without another man in it in a sexual way. I used to get very guilty in my times after being with various men. That guilt has faded away. Now, I hardly think about it. Its a secret I keep..and need to keep from everyone.
BMT: Exactly! I have the same thoughts and actions as you. Before I met Mark, due to the internet, I was able to have many sexual encounters with men. In college I only dated women. I looked at guys in the gym and on the street, but I never had the balls to approach a hot guy in person. I had my first gay sexual experience when I was 28. All the men I have had sex (only safe) with I met on line. (Man Hunt, Big Muscle, AOL, Craig’s List) I felt very nervous and guilty at first, but now it is just part of me. I have to say I have never had a bad experience. Bad sex, yes of course it happens, but all pretty nice men. I guess I do a good job of screening guys upfront. The hunt is exciting, but it takes a lot of time. I was so happy when I met Mark. No more wasting time on the hunt!
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BLM: 2010-06-07 – House of Cards
Is it me, or him, or us?
Sometimes I just can't tell. I'm fragile..prone to fits of jealousy, testiness, insecurity..but, when Ross doesn't call me, text me, or anything..for a day or more..it drives me batty! Now, I'm not one to stand on ceremony..I tried. I called him, texted him..but I was getting the feeling..the bad feeling I had when things went sour that time. Suddenly, he wasn't available. Couldn't talk. Too busy..he'll get back to me..then..nothing.
Is it just that life suddenly got crazy for him? That's what he says..but I can't believe that he can't pick up the phone..and devote 2 minutes to me. "Sorry, crazy busy, but just wanted to say hi and that I missed you." That would do!
Last week, he texted me how he missed me..wanted to meet soon..then..we couldn't because I got busy. But I called him..and we chatted.
This week...I had said how I hoped we could hang one day..that I missed him. "OK" I got. OK? Someone says they miss you and your response is OK????
Maybe something is wrong in our relationship. Maybe he realized that this is too much for him. A few weeks ago, things were great...we were away together..WHAT HAPPENED? WHAT DID I DO?
Up until this little blip on the screen, things have been great with Ross and I. But, it's amazing how unhappy it gets me when things don't continue as I had hoped. I get depressed, I doubt myself, I get surly..it's not how I want things to be.
When I ask him what's going on, he tells me nothing, that everything is fine. It doesn't feel fine. But, I'm taking him on his word for now. I guess time will tell.
BMT: I can relate. I got depressed when my communication with Mark dropped off. Depression runs in my family. I think I am generally unhappy more days than I am happy. Like you, I am concerned that my family does not deserve my bad attitude. I am never physically violent. But, when I am in a funk, little things at home bother me. I speak in harsh tones to my wife and kids. However, my mood instantly picks up with a text from Mark. Funny how a text can really make my day!
He is the first thing I think of in the morning and the last thing at night. I know the reason for the drop off. But, I still want to be his friend. I hope he wants to me mine. He says he does. But actions speak louder than words. Mike like Ross missed my birthday. Ouch!
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BLM: Flawless? I go to the gym, watching for the slightest acknowledgment from a hot guy, hoping to make a connection. I eat lunch at the cafe, wondering if the smile I get from someone is a "have a good day" or "let's have a good day". I look at the UPS man, the Poland Spring water man and the Xerox Copy guy differently than any heterosexual man. I hit the beach with my family secretly salivating over the lean speedo laden lifeguards. I drink, eat, sleep sex.
BMT: Same here man. Ahh . . . the beach, love it! Sometimes I wonder if my wife sees me looking at all the hot guys. I did not have a great body in HS. I worked hard for what I have today. I love the hot weather, working out, getting pumped and sweaty. It gets me horned up. I often j/o after I workout. Sometimes I work out with Mark then go back to his place for another workout . I j/o almost every day. I can not hold out like you. I get looks from guys. I am still too insecure to look back and create that gaydar connection.
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BLM: 2009-09-14 Therapy
As a result of my choice to remain secretive, I am in a constant personality upheaval. Some days, I'm great. Relatively calm, pretty content. Other days, I'm downright nasty, unhappy and resentful. Unfortunately, I take it out on some of the people closest to me, although never physically. For the past couple weeks, I can say that this blog has helped me tremendously. Writing my thoughts down releases them from my mind. I seem happier, content. I've even been more productive at work, and lessened my visits to those gay sites I used to frequent.
BMT: Mark is my Therapy. Our friendship and sex has helped me in so many ways. I can never thank him enough. I feel very fortunate for our relationship. I think it has helped me be a better family man. Since meeting Mark, I know I have been easier to live with.
BLM: 2009-12-15
A New Beginning
I guess I consider it the ultimate sacrifice, although there are those that differ. I have traded my true and complete happiness for those of my kids. One day, when my time has come, I can go to my grave knowing that they were protected by me, had a normal and happy childhood and a loving and dedicated family to surround them.
BLM: 3/11/10 Boxes
Deceit is an inevitable part of a life lived the way I do. I am married, with children...and have decided that my children's well-being requires that I be an active, "normal" and conventional family. Of course, I could come out to my family. I imagine it would require some time of upheaval and disturbance in my children's lives and probably to our relationships.
BMT: Exactly! To come out now is not an option. These are very important years for my son’s development. I do not want to disturb it for them. Though as the anonymous reader below points out; what may happen is after the kids are out of the house, I may leave my wife. Hurt their Mom, what will the kids think of me then? I am thinking it will be very hard at first. But, I am hoping the strong relationship I have with my kids will carry us through the hard times. I also do not want to hurt my wife. I am thinking our relationship will be in a place that it will not hurt as much. Or maybe I will keep the family together. Maybe my burning desire for men will subside with age. . . . wishful thinking? I just want the best for everyone.
This Comment Stung . . . From a Anonymous Reader 3/30/10 : Okay reading between the lines... she knows it is obvious. She did find you calling that gay sex line and now with the revelation of her knowing you hang out with Ross who is 20 yrs younger, business, working out, coffees ... she knows and she is not working and living by all accounts as a typical suburban wife.. a jewish one albiet...So with that in mind by the time the last child hits 18 which is probably in a few years she will then have most of her life taken away from her and you will be able to move onto your life as a gay man. Her... not so much as she will be well into her 50's no skill set to fall back on career wise and you will give her half the house and she will end up in an apt or condo and your kids will be like WTF???? Then let the games begin... you hurt there Mother. Just a recap... enjoy your vaca and Happy Passover
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BLM: 12/29/09
What do I want for the new year? I want a straight, masculine guy..a masculine guy like myself. He can be a top, or bottom or versatile..as long as he is not obsessed with anal sex. I want someone to hold, and make out with..kiss..like the guy in the gym (yea I'm still thinking about him). I want someone with a great connection, someone I can confide in, someone who I can trust with the most important secret of my life. I want to be able to look forward to seeing him, seeing him naked..pleasure him and have him all over my body too. It doesn't have to be nasty. It doesn't have to be gross. It doesn't have to be pounding, rough, screaming sex. It needs to be me and him..together..and hot for each other.
BLM: 6/28/10 Be yourself - I don't want to be in a relationship that I can't feel comfortable in being myself (I'm already in one of those aren't I?) I want to be able to call someone when I want, and be called. I want to have someone fawn over me..and fawn over them. I want to be happy..and know that I am making someone happy too. I want to be appreciated.
BMT: Ditto, Here I am buddy! :)
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BLM: 3/13/10 seat belt video clip.
BMT: I like the seat belt clip. I always wear mine.
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BLM: 3/25/10 from reader
I'll remind you of something that you already know: what you have with Ross is the idyllic fantasy of perhaps MILLIONS of bisexual men. Don't torture yourself with the any slight imperfections. Just "be" when you are with Ross. Enjoy every second of your time together; live in the moment.
BMT: Good advice. I tend to plan too much. What will I be doing with Mark, tomorrow, next week or next month? Life happens in the here and now. I should focus on the moment. I have taken some yoga and meditation classes. To clear our mind, they taught us to focus on our breath. It is the only thing in the here and now. I should follow this advice more often.
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BLM: 3/29/10 How things work
Is it hard to balance the feelings I have with Ross with the feelings I have for my wife? Suffice it to say that I have extremely strong feelings for Ross - feelings that once at least, made me question my place with my family at times. But, the stuff with my wife is a very complicated topic...I have been planning on talking about my relationship with my wife..but have resisted because it's very, very personal..very, very delicate and very, very complicated. I also worry about revealing anything about that..for fear of blowing my cover on here, plus I really don't want to open up that part of my life for discussion and arguments. While most of you, nearly all of you who read my blog are wonderful people and very supportive, some are downright nasty assholes. I'm not interested in hearing from the assholes about my wife. I also don't know if anyone is interested in hearing about my relationship with my wife. My wife and I are great parents, and I hope, for now to leave it at that.
BLM: 6/1/10 We do have our sexual issues, my wife and I. But, if I can toot my own horn, I am a great father, I'm a good provider, and reliable and interested and active in my children's lives.
BMT: I will tell you about my wife. She is a wonderful person. She is very social and extroverted. She does an unbelievable job juggling her career, kids and running the house. She has the same healthy lifestyle as me and is in great shape. We have the same interests and enjoy spending time together. She does not nag or want things that we cannot afford. Sounds pretty good huh? Well the only bad part is we have sex about once a year. The last two times happened when we took a vacation with out the kids. (they were in camp). We give each other a peck on the cheek when we greet each other in public. That is the extent of our intimacy. We do not hug or even touch each other in our queen size bed. Several years ago I told her that she is more like a roommate to me than my wife. She saw a doctor about her low sexual desire. Apparently, it is a common problem for women. She is not motivated enough to improve the situation. The kids are her priority.
I am not sure if my feelings for men would be less if I had a great sex life with my wife.
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BLM: 5/10/10 redemption
Recently, I mentioned that I could go for only 4 days, and I'd like to go in order to get away from the stress I've been under and also to give Ross a hand with his work. She was the one to whip out the calendar and map out the days that made sense. I guess it just shows you how truly unique my wife is. She really never would tell me I couldn't do something, couldn't buy something or go somewhere.
BMT: My wife would do the same thing. We are very lucky guys.
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BLM: 5/11/10 – I think I can. When I was younger, I used to have very short hair, "Guido-ish" sticking up with lots of gel. As I grew older (and thinner) I passed on the Guido look and opted for a little longer hair, kinda tussled look..with a little flip in front. But I see my kids, with that buzzed short hair and I think they look awesome. Some of the pics of guys that I find attractive have super short, buzzed hair Something buzzed, yet not to short to show skin..kinda like the pics I have posted here today. . I would love to get that done, but so far, haven't had the balls to do so.
Part of the problem is my frontal lobe..no not my brain, but my hairline. It's pretty OK with my hair the way it is..but, I am showing some signs of the mileage...it is getting thin. How would I look with a buzz cut? I don't know. There should be a way to find out before you get it done, just so your not stuck wearing a hat for 2 months while it grows back.
Another thing I always wanted to get was a tattoo. Something very cool..on my shoulder blade. Round and sun-like....I've notice a few I like on guys I see at the beach. The pain doesn't worry me so much as does the religious implications and the affect getting a tattoo will have on my kids. I mean, nowadays, even grandmas have tattoos, so it's not like it's frowned upon, but I always believed never encourage your kids to do anything to show abuse, or disregard to one's self..whether it be drugs, alcohol, excessive eating, or body or image things like tattoos, earnings, even strange or dyed hair. Those are things that reflect on you..and your family. I tell them if you walk around with red spiky hair, people are going to question not only your character, but the character of your parents...so the moral goes. So, I guess I'm stuck without a tattoo. But the hair? God, every time I go to the barber I ask.."you think I should get it buzzed?" He says no..but I think he's just protecting his business.
BMT: Too funny man. I dig guys with buzz cuts! A military high and tight WOOF! I wanted a shorter look too. The woman who cuts my hair said no. She would only use a #2 clipper on me. Today my hair is #2 short on the sides and back. I use a little gel on the slightly longer front.
I have the same feelings as you about a tattoo. They look hot on some guys. I thought about a tribal band tattoo on my bicep or a sun tattoo on my shoulder. My kids and I once got fake tribal band tattoos for our right biceps’. Me and the kids doing a bicep pose made a cute picture. While at the beach one year, I got a henna sun tattoo on my upper shoulder. Yeah, I was a bad MF’er for a week!
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BLM: 5/14/10 Museum post
BMT: My wife and I have been to all except for the The Guggenheim, Bilbao, Spain . (Been to the Guggenheim in Manhattan) and where is the penis museum? :) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BLM: 5/31/10 The one thing I am hoping for is that Ross remembers my birthday, and at least gets me a nice card. Honestly, a dinner with him sometime this week would be a fabulous present. But, I know he's very busy and that him remembering may be asking a bit much. Should I remind him? Do I need to? Should this be some kind of test of our relationship? Stupid, I know.
BMT: It is stupid but I do the same thing, always testing my relationship with Mark. Missing a birthday is a big sign. But, in my eyes, Mark can do no wrong. He has helped me so much to learn who I am. For that I am forever grateful. I will accept what ever level of friendship Mark wants for us. I want him to be happy. If that happiness means less time for me and more for him to develop a relationship with his ex-boyfriend, I can not complain.
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BML: phi kappa bi
BMT: A frat for us, I like it! I was not in a frat in college. However, I have a fascination with cocky, jock, frat college guys. That was not me in college. These guys would not give me the time of day in college. Over the years, I have met and fucked several of these guys. Talk about acceptance, sex is a strange thing.
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BLM: you mentioned Howard Stern and his comments about Gabourey Sidibe.
BMT: I love Howard. I listen to him every day. BTW my wife likes him too.
Sorry for the long note. I hope it helps you in some way to know there is a guy so much like you out there. I would be happy to share more details of my situation with you.
Thanks again for your blog. You are an excellent writer.
With Love and Support,
Bi Married Too
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